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 Post subject: Gecko, how do you avoid being sued?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:53 pm 
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Security often calls for physical confrontation. Last year a somalian jumped the delivery guy. I fired some mace in his eyes and tackled him down then used flex cuffs, using my weight to pin him down until myy backup arrived. Apparently his vision's still a little off (i call bs) a broken cheeckbone, and spinal damage from my knee. Now my boss got a letter on her desk saying were being sued by this thug. How do you work around this?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:16 am 
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Im no gecko but can give my opinoin from my security if I may.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:58 am 
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that would be good, i need several professional opinions.


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 Post subject: Re: Gecko, how do you avoid being sued?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:28 pm 
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This is no substitute for legal advice, just my opinion as a well versed SEO.

Well, first if you had authorization to carry and use the mace and flex cuffs on duty that's a plus and good for you. If not that leaves you nor the company a lot of personal leeway. And yes I call bs on the pepper spray too. In accordance with my various training I've been sprayed several, several times and it is very highly unlikely that one would still feel the effects a year later. Yet the times we live in leave you, or rather the company to prove that his vision is otherwise. Anyone can flunk an eye test on purpose. Seconly, did you have the authority to defend persons on client property and subdue said persons on client property. If so that's great. Its not your fault that you gave him those particular injuries while defending another human being. Third, your employer being a security firm should have insurances in place to lessen the personal liability to 0 of being sued if infact you had: the authority to defend persons on property, detain persons, and use of pepper spray and flex cuffs. You were doing your job. As far as the company being sued I don't know. If a lady burns her self with a cup of hot coffee that clearly states that its hot on the cup and get 1.2 mill. From sueing said resturant then anything is possible my friend.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:06 am 
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k9870 -- You must remember that ninjutsu is the art of stealth. Stealth is all about not being seen. Remaining invisible is never more important than when you are pressing down on the man underneath you. And yes, that can result in injuries which will last a year or more. All the more reason to be stealthy.

Being an Armed Security Specialist means taking risks. Sometimes thsoe risks may be the snipers who prowl our streets day in and day out. Sometimes those threts may be gangs of roving high school truants hell bent on apocolyptic mischef. Sometimes it may be the lawyer who tries to tell you how to do your job.

No one knows how to do your job better than you. If that lawyer knows so much about being an Armed Security Specialist, why is he practicing law? He should be an Armed Security Specialist to if he's so smart.

When the lawyers start poking into my business I just ignore it. Sure, they can serve supeenas. And I can move to another town if need be. For those who don't know, Gecko is not my real name. I am anonymous. I am invisible. I am ninja.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:18 am 
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Gecko, I am not trained in ninjitsu, but i will look into it. I am fully certified for my mace and flexcuffs, and I was protecting another person, and the product we strive to deliver on time, hot and fresh. Could you recommend a law firm?

We just got some more funding too. We upgraded from ford focus's to Impala v8s, and our handi rifles in -06 should be replaced within the week, my boss ordered us half a dozen ptr-91s with 50mm countersniper scopes, fortunately not made by hk, even if it is there desighn. Hk has poor customer service.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:02 pm 
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Gecko is right, in the security field as in others stealth is very important. If you are not seen it didn't happen. Though there is a particular discipline to use if you can not avoid being seen in which you defend yourself but it appears as you are trying to avoid the attacker. Ex. I am by a wall and you punch at my head, I move and you punch the wall..oops. Or you rush me and I convieniently trip you an you go head fist into a door...oops. Your would be attacker is injuring themselves, or at least it appears as such. This also tires your attacker out and not you. The name of the particular discipline escapes me at the moment and various martial arts as well as govt. Training employ these tactics. So I've gathered that you accompany a delivery person of hot food as security personel. What types of hot food does your company make?



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:13 pm 
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We are private aecurity, my client is a pizza deliver comapany, they alsoa few basic appetizers and deserts.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:16 pm 
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Sounds appetizing, no pun intended, geckos input has made me think and I hope mine has helped you some.



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It has, the company is on its own with its legal team, but i have my own lawer. I am enrolling in a stealth training class.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:00 pm 
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I know that it is mainly my training and eastern up-bringing talking, and while stealth training is good, it is but one part of a plethera of knoweldge and learning. If you want to practice stealth that's o.k. But to fully utilize stealth you should take on some type of self defence class or martial arts training. These types of knoweledge are like a woven basket while it may work o.k. Missing a few reeds, in the same light it may drop its contents on account of those missing reeds as well.



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once i finish these mozarella sticks (love getting the free food, a big plus) im going to my basement range to qualify with my 10mm and do some introduction karate. After that a travel home nice sleep, i have noon shift tomorrow.


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just did 30 minuites of karate based training, focsed on alertness and awareness of surroundings. I'm going to sleep now, got to deliver lunchtime pizzas tomorrow. Going back to the somali neighborhoods, this will be a 2 car delivery for sure.


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Guys ... last warning. This section of the forum is for (1) asking Gecko questions and (2) reading his responses. Please do not use it as a discussion section. Thank you.



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